Manipur Masala presents a thought singju on the Inner Line Permit system in the state
A few days ago, a North Indian friend asked me over an online chat: “Why ate all the fuss about the ILP system in your state?” Of course, I told her the obvious.
I started, “Imagine the Manipuris are in millions and the Rajasthanis, in mere thousands. How would you feel when there comes a situation: all the Manipuris are starting to settle down in Rajasthan? We would not only consume all the available resources but also exhaust most of the available options of employment in every sector. Our population would keep increasing day by day while the population of the natives would decrease at an alarming rate.”
How lucky are those who do not have to go through the trials and tribulations of belonging to tiny ethnic groups! But my explanation, when I pressed the replied button was looking so lacking and so I continued.
“There would also come a time when you guys would not be able own land in your own land. On the other hand, we, the outsiders, will become the new property owners and landlords. We would also be running flourishing businesses at every nook and corner of your state. How would you really feel about that?”
She did not reply for quite some time. After a long pause, she finally typed, “Arrey yaar, aise kaise ho sakta hain?”
I shot back, “Aise hee ho rahe hain yahaan. ILP has become a major concern in our state. One day you may plan to visit me here but you would never be able to locate my home because it might be owned by some non-local then. That’s the probable situation, my dear. And that’s why we desperately need ILP in Manipur.’
My sweet friend empathised with me over the issue. She did understand the currents that have gripped our state over the last few days.
It took less than half an hour to explain about this issue to a non-Manipuri friend. However, it is disheartening to find out that our so called self-styled leaders are taking such a long time to understand the issue and implement means to empower it. Can they be this much insensitive about such a crucial issue? How do they represent themselves as our mapi-mapa when they do not pay any heed to any of our grievances?
The inhumane manner of thrashing students as if they are lamgi sha-sun is such a condemnable act. Do the police personnel understand the meaning of a human being? It seems not. I wonder who commanded them to thrash the students; perhaps they are just the most stupid stooges in the whole universe. Otherwise we know they would not even act, carry out even their own duty on their own. The students are demanding for ILP — for everybody — and not for not air-conditioned classes or swanky facilities at their schools and colleges.
The ILP issue is not meant for a particular community or locality. It is a common issue that, in my opinion, should tickle the conscience of each and every person in the state.
Closing down schools and colleges was definitely a kok yaodaba reaction from the government. A counter general-strike was neither a wise solution — though none of these is a surprise, if we look back and recollect the evergreen ad-hocism of the ruling government. There is a saying in Manipuri – Langnaradi nungduum waatey. However, during such a crucial issue pelting stones at each other is not the best thing we can do. We are supposed to have a common stand for both the government anf the governed on such an issue.
Chafu kairaga kwaakna haraowi. It is the high time we stop pleasing the so-called crows in question. Implementation of ILP in Manipur has nothing to do with the fear psychosis that the non-Manipuris will be excommunicated from the state. Frankly, it is not even a claustrophobic social reaction. ILP is not a China Wall to drive away the non-Manipuris from Manipur.
We need ILP to preserve and protect our land, to have a control on our economy, to build our business and most importantly to safeguard our cultural identity.
A linsu-siba-cheisusu-tektaba strategy would be a wise step from the government. If not, this issue may further aggravate and may probably become a predecessor of various other issues. Let’s stop stirring a tempest in a lai-khudeng. Let’s raise our voice to implement the ILP system in Manipur.
This article was published on 27 July 2014
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Readers have a lot to say on this issue. Some of the comments on the Sangai Express webpage is pasted below (Excuse the pathetic English):
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dear sanatombi angomcha, I must say..im a bit disappointed aftr reading ur article as it seems more lik a one sided argument. Can u pl eloborate? How do outsiders end up owing land in manipur? Was it by grabbing land or becoz it was for sale? If it was grabbed, yes., its criminal..but if they bought it fr the manipuri owner..doesnt it mean dat the previous owner had economical reasons for selling it..mayb becoz of the declining economy, he cudnt maintain da property n saw it more benificial to sell it?
@editor..is ther any seminar I can join to discuss and debate and improvement my understanding on dis issue?
then why do we need to be pissed off with the racial crime in Delhi or Bangalore or Pune??? if you said so "Imagine the Manipuris are in millions and the Rajasthanis, in mere thousands. How would you feel when there comes a situation when all the Manipuris start to settle down in Rajasthan? We would not only consume all the available resources but also exhaust most of the available options of employment in every sector. Our population would keep increasing day by day while the population of the natives would decrease at an alarming rate,” then non-Manipuri would also say the same. My dear author, this is not all about non-Manipuri taking up your job or eating up your/our share, but its also the fault of Mr. and Ms. Manipuris who are damn lazy and who would love to act like BABUS...to me, we better clean our mess before u strike directly to non-Manipuris
Amit don't worry,don't panic,we know u hv ILP phobia,the word ILP is not comfortable for u ppl. Coz if ILP is implemented,ur game plan to overwhelm Manipur with Mayang,to turn Manipur another Tripura will be defeated.But most of ur fear is due to poor knowledge on ILP,I reiterate ILP didn't in any way prevent any one to entered and stay in Manipur,but you can't be settled permanently here in Manipur.The faltoo migrants will be prevented.Don't worry if we succeed in ILP,again we will work to implement ILP in other states of India too,then to other countries as well.Manipuris are broad minded.We will again demand ILP for world,after our job is completed......Ur ignorance is a crime not only for u but for ur family too...u look sikkim,nagaland,mizoram,arunachal where ILP is enforce,did their state prevent any outsiders from staying for specific purpose,for specific time?the ans is NO. But it prevent intrusion without purpose and permanent settlement.So if u think for permanent settlement in Manipur,ur worry is genuine,otherwise imaginary.@Manipuri,@Abhi Sharma etc who are descendants of Mahabharata Arjun may be a little worry coz they want manipuris to assimilate with Aryans Indian,in the name of global world,you may discuss ur future course of action to prevent it but I don't think they will succeed much.
A few days ago, a North Indian friend asked me over an online chat: “Why ate all the fuss about the ILP system in your state?” Of course, I told her the obvious.
I started, “Imagine the Manipuris are in millions and the Rajasthanis, in mere thousands. How would you feel when there comes a situation: all the Manipuris are starting to settle down in Rajasthan? We would not only consume all the available resources but also exhaust most of the available options of employment in every sector. Our population would keep increasing day by day while the population of the natives would decrease at an alarming rate.”
How lucky are those who do not have to go through the trials and tribulations of belonging to tiny ethnic groups! But my explanation, when I pressed the replied button was looking so lacking and so I continued.
“There would also come a time when you guys would not be able own land in your own land. On the other hand, we, the outsiders, will become the new property owners and landlords. We would also be running flourishing businesses at every nook and corner of your state. How would you really feel about that?”
She did not reply for quite some time. After a long pause, she finally typed, “Arrey yaar, aise kaise ho sakta hain?”
I shot back, “Aise hee ho rahe hain yahaan. ILP has become a major concern in our state. One day you may plan to visit me here but you would never be able to locate my home because it might be owned by some non-local then. That’s the probable situation, my dear. And that’s why we desperately need ILP in Manipur.’
My sweet friend empathised with me over the issue. She did understand the currents that have gripped our state over the last few days.
It took less than half an hour to explain about this issue to a non-Manipuri friend. However, it is disheartening to find out that our so called self-styled leaders are taking such a long time to understand the issue and implement means to empower it. Can they be this much insensitive about such a crucial issue? How do they represent themselves as our mapi-mapa when they do not pay any heed to any of our grievances?
The inhumane manner of thrashing students as if they are lamgi sha-sun is such a condemnable act. Do the police personnel understand the meaning of a human being? It seems not. I wonder who commanded them to thrash the students; perhaps they are just the most stupid stooges in the whole universe. Otherwise we know they would not even act, carry out even their own duty on their own. The students are demanding for ILP — for everybody — and not for not air-conditioned classes or swanky facilities at their schools and colleges.
The ILP issue is not meant for a particular community or locality. It is a common issue that, in my opinion, should tickle the conscience of each and every person in the state.
Closing down schools and colleges was definitely a kok yaodaba reaction from the government. A counter general-strike was neither a wise solution — though none of these is a surprise, if we look back and recollect the evergreen ad-hocism of the ruling government. There is a saying in Manipuri – Langnaradi nungduum waatey. However, during such a crucial issue pelting stones at each other is not the best thing we can do. We are supposed to have a common stand for both the government anf the governed on such an issue.
Chafu kairaga kwaakna haraowi. It is the high time we stop pleasing the so-called crows in question. Implementation of ILP in Manipur has nothing to do with the fear psychosis that the non-Manipuris will be excommunicated from the state. Frankly, it is not even a claustrophobic social reaction. ILP is not a China Wall to drive away the non-Manipuris from Manipur.
We need ILP to preserve and protect our land, to have a control on our economy, to build our business and most importantly to safeguard our cultural identity.
A linsu-siba-cheisusu-tektaba strategy would be a wise step from the government. If not, this issue may further aggravate and may probably become a predecessor of various other issues. Let’s stop stirring a tempest in a lai-khudeng. Let’s raise our voice to implement the ILP system in Manipur.
This article was published on 27 July 2014
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Readers have a lot to say on this issue. Some of the comments on the Sangai Express webpage is pasted below (Excuse the pathetic English):
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Then every state should start the same thing and manipuris
should not be allowed to stay in any other state as in Delhi and
south-India many are there. This will increase communal disharmony only.
If the whole population of Manipur(say 27 lacs)migrated to
UP which having population of 22 crores,the situation may not be
alarming to UP.But when more than 5 lacs outsiders(Mayang) migrated to a
tiny state like Manipur with population of 27lacs,only the situation is
so alaerming,it threaten the ethnic identity,socio
economic,cultural,traditional and political aspects of the indigenous
ppl.Time to raise up,we owe to our students community for taking on the
horns of stiff suppressive policy of state government.We should
appreciate our students community.
The piece of sanatombi is an
inspiring one,thanks for your contribution.A quote from Malala
Yousafzai,a global icon ,only 17 yrs of age, take on Taliban head on in
Pakistan in her age of 11,advocating education for girls."One child,one
teacher,one book and one pen can change the world".In our age of social
networking,we can thrive for implementation of ILP,to save us from
being" extinct"Every citizen can contribute to his or her capacity,to
achieve it.
dear sanatombi angomcha, I must say..im a bit disappointed aftr reading ur article as it seems more lik a one sided argument. Can u pl eloborate? How do outsiders end up owing land in manipur? Was it by grabbing land or becoz it was for sale? If it was grabbed, yes., its criminal..but if they bought it fr the manipuri owner..doesnt it mean dat the previous owner had economical reasons for selling it..mayb becoz of the declining economy, he cudnt maintain da property n saw it more benificial to sell it?
Den sudnt we
focus more on how to improve the economy of the state?in dis case,ILPS
will become a deterant to investment from outside.
Secondly, u seem to b of the view dat we(manipuris) hav similar
interest..is it true? What is da difference between a rich mayang n a
rich manipuri?how is land owned by a rich manipuri going to be
different?is he going to giv his house rent free? Ur assumption is dat
it is better..so please eloborate. My understanding is dat a capitalist
is a capitalist.
Also..wont ILP play spoilsport in da growth of business?
I wont go to
mizoram or arunachal n invest in those states fr da same reason
investors wont invest in manipur if ILP is introduced.and if I earn
money from setting up a business in manipur with ILP in da state..I cant
invest in land so il be taking the money out of the state..money wont
come in from outside..so manipurs economy will not improve.
Again, how did u assume dat the students r pro actively struggling for
ILPS? Have u taken a poll to see who supports n who doest? Or even
better..who realy understands the issue at hand?
my experience tels me they r made to march by some 'student leaders' who
jus barged into the classroom.
These r young ppl wid limited understanding of the issue..n r being used
as pawns..made to face the colonialstyle police n suffer physical
injuries.
We all want to contribute for the betterment of manipur but majority of
the public stil do not understand in entirety, the issues related to
ILPS.
We form opinions besed on small talks n one sided articles in
local media.
I humbly request u to write another article explaining these in minute
details. Infact..a pros n cons on ILPS will b extremely useful.
We know that a thesis needs a strong antithesis for it to
develop...consider my comment as such.
@editor..is ther any seminar I can join to discuss and debate and improvement my understanding on dis issue?
then why do we need to be pissed off with the racial crime in Delhi or Bangalore or Pune??? if you said so "Imagine the Manipuris are in millions and the Rajasthanis, in mere thousands. How would you feel when there comes a situation when all the Manipuris start to settle down in Rajasthan? We would not only consume all the available resources but also exhaust most of the available options of employment in every sector. Our population would keep increasing day by day while the population of the natives would decrease at an alarming rate,” then non-Manipuri would also say the same. My dear author, this is not all about non-Manipuri taking up your job or eating up your/our share, but its also the fault of Mr. and Ms. Manipuris who are damn lazy and who would love to act like BABUS...to me, we better clean our mess before u strike directly to non-Manipuris
Amit don't worry,don't panic,we know u hv ILP phobia,the word ILP is not comfortable for u ppl. Coz if ILP is implemented,ur game plan to overwhelm Manipur with Mayang,to turn Manipur another Tripura will be defeated.But most of ur fear is due to poor knowledge on ILP,I reiterate ILP didn't in any way prevent any one to entered and stay in Manipur,but you can't be settled permanently here in Manipur.The faltoo migrants will be prevented.Don't worry if we succeed in ILP,again we will work to implement ILP in other states of India too,then to other countries as well.Manipuris are broad minded.We will again demand ILP for world,after our job is completed......Ur ignorance is a crime not only for u but for ur family too...u look sikkim,nagaland,mizoram,arunachal where ILP is enforce,did their state prevent any outsiders from staying for specific purpose,for specific time?the ans is NO. But it prevent intrusion without purpose and permanent settlement.So if u think for permanent settlement in Manipur,ur worry is genuine,otherwise imaginary.@Manipuri,@Abhi Sharma etc who are descendants of Mahabharata Arjun may be a little worry coz they want manipuris to assimilate with Aryans Indian,in the name of global world,you may discuss ur future course of action to prevent it but I don't think they will succeed much.
Yes My friend Amit,we should start the same thing..Lets us
drive out those Manipuris from each and every states..These people have
been eating our jobs in Metro cities...ok,This is for sanatombi-isn't
this a globalisation era??? Do we Non-Manipuri forcefully buy/owe land
from you??? Isn't there thousands of Manipuri settel outside ur state,in
there owned land??? And yes,this ILP is for a particular community,your
people just seek easy money...Manipur is and always will be an
undevelope state in India...and it shows the bad mirror to our whole NE
states...continue with ur agitation,we will follow u,to implement ILPs
in ours state too.
@ Sanatombi, I appreciate your concern in preserving our
beloved land,unique identity and culture. But you got it wrong here.
Introducing ILP will not solve the problem. It will only serve the
interest of the evil elements of certain sections of the society. Unless
we learn to develop Cultural tolerance we will be left behind. How long
do we intend to live in isolation from the rest of the country? We
speak of racial discrimination in Cities outside Manipur but we're no
less better. Living in isolation will only jncrease the regional
imbalance. Isn't it time we come out of our cocoon and learn from other
developing states? Your article may earn you some brownie points here in
Manipur but your attitude has put all of us in a bad light. I
understand exactly how your online friend must have felt about us. The
union Government on 5th Dec 2013 rejected the demand for introduction of
ILP in Meghalaya. The Home Ministry conveyed it was bound by Article 19
of the constitution which allows any Indian citizen to move freely
throughout the territory of the Country. What hope do we have in
implementing ILP? We will be better off by concentrating our energy
towards other activities like reforming education system, Land
acquisition laws and cultural development programs rather than blindly
protesting and involving innocent students. Time to wake up!
Why asking introduction of ILP? Istead asked for revoking
ILP cos it is already here during 60s, when , why and who lifted i don't
know. We hill people still enforce and practice still now.
@Abhis Sharma aka .... aka jemjem aka amit aka ....who told u
ILP will be stumbling Block for outside investors?Don't post half
knowledge,concocted,imaginary theories to mislead the people.Educate
yourself before writing on any issues otherwise your hollowness will be
exposed.Your comments revealed that you people know nothing on the
plight of other NE states where ILP is enforcing.Do home work first.I
will take up one small example to prove wrong on your contention that
ILP prevent outside investment.Sikkim ,I think you may heard of this
state,is a state where ILP is enforcing.Some portion of the state
adjoining China are restricted and protected areas.You people know
national and international companies are investing in hydroelectric
projects,Teesta projects stage 1 to 4 are developing in sikkim.The
stage 4 alone have the capacity of 1200MW which is 2nd largest project
in India,if it is commission.
Teesta Urja,Gati infra,Neepco,NHPC are all
working with promoters /developers include company from foreign
countries.Apart from that Pharmaceutical companies like Cipla,Alkem etc
have their manufacturing center in this state.Local wine liquor,beers
,India made foreign liquors ,manufacturing factories stay in this
state.Besides, in tourism sectors too restaurants,cabs,lodging,other
services are providing by non sikkimese .These are small examples to
prove that ILP don't prevent outside investors.Again foreign and
domestic tourists keep flowing throughout the year with visa on arrival
and ILP permit issued without restrictions,but only to regulate and
monitor the outsiders entry.Outsiders students studying in Manipal Tech
institutions /ELAM universities etc.outsiders are working in Maanipal
federal hospitals and other institutions.
Mainland traders and
businessmen are doing their business.However those who are not State
subjects are not entitled for voting rights,not allow to settle down,not
get government jobs,not allow to purchase land,which protected the
sikkimese aboriginal people.The same imply to other states too.I am just
giving a Subjective and instructive example because classical examples
will not go down well in your upper faculty,as I can anticipated from
your comments.No hard feelings please.This truth may embarass you people
because your sole intention was to assimilate aboriginals of Manipur
with Aryan origin in due course of time thereby obliterate our identify
from this earth since you are descendants of Arjun of Mahabharata.For
God's sake please leave this issue to Manipuris alone.You Miyancha has
no business here.
what kind of language is this? either write in proper English or Meiteilon.
This is why I m truly shamed of being Manipuri. Bunch of
cowards cowardice blah blah when they can't control their own family.
Blaming their neighbors is their habbit. This is not democratic
movement. Open up ur minds bros and sis, we're living on the same
planet. Everyone has the right to live anywhere if they are worthy. If
you wanna protect ur culture there are a lot ways to that. INP is the
shortcut you think you found but that is wrong. Your shortcut shamed us.
I m telling you this again and again, stop this cowardice.
Nice article! It is important to inform the public in this
kind of emergency solution. It is not surprising though some people are
talking about language like they are some PhD holders in English [Mathi
fao khange!] Leave those hopeless puritans. But the issue is that we
have to safeguard our own land. Amit & Co. must be some frustrated
and useless Mayang who can do nothing but babble here. We are together
for ILP! [Another moron cannot even say it properly INP - wtf is that?]
The government must listen to the people's voice. Implement the system
urgently! Haiyoom sidaba.
It is pursuasive and straightforward piece of work from
sister Sanatombi.we may be apprehensive about the modus operandi of the
ongoing ILPS movement but the demand per se is of utmost importance
and a necessity also.unfortunatly,due to lack of publicity and hence
awareness,its been misconstrued as a demand either to expatriate the
nonmanipuris or to deny access to the state,we need to clear these
misplaced thoughts.further we need to ask a few quetions to ourselves to
clarify the utility and feasibility of the ILPS,even though we are
guranteed by the constitution to move and travel and settle anywhere,can
we really enjoy or is it really safegurd us?of course not.one may argue
that so many manipuris are settle or live in other states.but where?
and how much in terms of number and penetration?can we go door door to
like the non locals doing right in our villages.again it may be put to
question that the nonlocals are laborious than us.but its is not only
laboriosness but also uncontrolled population due to lackadisical effort
of family planning in the larger states.just imagine how there is such
an alienating forces even in metros? everybody knows how large is our
state.it s just like a district of a larger state,but such a tiny area
of indian state is where we can be ourselves,whre we can preserve our
culture.is this isolation?or does it goes against the multi culturalism
ethics?or against the spirit of constitution? we are far lesser in
number,economic clout,and politcal influence that a compltele cultural
and demographic intercourse can dissolve whatever we have.then how will
identify ourselves.here one possibility is if we can transform
ourselves like the the most influntial Parsis.
Howesver it is not
realistic.is this paranoidic,xenophobic,or ailing from inferiority
complex?then are we superior in any way than the other ILP staates? if
so in what ways?and by corollary are we better ably equipped to compete
in every ecosystem with the outsiders,by this it doesnt mean ilps is a
panacea for all the ills but it will be a major step which can
regulate the .unchecked influx from anywhre.there needs to be some
balance.we have to be secure ourselves not to become a second
tripura.only then our future generation can feel secure and it will
help healing ifestation of the millitancy.after that we can considerer
other aspects of development.of course we need to be safe,we caanot
compare ourselves more established societies.a little digression,just
remember to get one and only historical Kangla how many years and how
extreme forms of demonstrations needed while the great no. of rajput
forts,dravidian and chola and etc etc attract protcttion and
preservation not only by there architectural magnificence but histerical
significance.is kangla less important?this is an example how the
marginalised can face the imbalance and inequity in all terms until we
reched a certain extent of maturirty and ability to stand ourselvesa in
the face of greater forces.we seem to forget a capitalist like ambani
have the ability to purchase whole of manipur!and thats why so many
special clauses are inserted in the constitution to preserve the weaker
sections and minorities. someone here expressed having a good doubt
linking investment with ilps ipmlementation.then how many investments
have so fer received without ilps in the last so many years.and why is
it not possible to have special provisions for investments to attract
under ilps .it is quite irrational to believe that settling by migrants
to the extent of succeeding our little population would be any
meaningful investment.ilps is neither xenophobic nor ultravires.example
is our neighbours.only it needs courage to project the matter in a
positive way to win support from all citizens.if its hazardous and
unethical to involve the young students then let us devise it in other
peaceful ways.lets write in national dailies.but it is not helpful being
a cynic.
@ibochou...what is wrong wid u? Ur analysis is totally
wrong. U chose sikkim?..for ur example?
i request the readers to pl read up on sikkims economy aftr reading
dis.sikkim is a tourist haven.the ppl r friendly n welcoming. And in
manipur, we hav YOU!! A tyre burning,racist,economics
wizard..screaming.."mayang..mayang"..n reading my comment wid his eyes
pooping out in his super fast p4 desktop n superfast internet.
how can u say dat all the above mentioned investors will invest in
manipur? If they didnt invest before ..why will they come n invest after
ILP is invoked? Investors look for investment friendly regions to
invest.Not a land wid ppl lik YOU!!!
wat a donkey! Sikkim..sikkim.
investors are lining up at mizoram n nagaland,yes?
Just as Bishnupuria meiteis who are bengali descendants
claimed their rights as Meiteis with time. we the mainlanders can also
follow through this way as a manipuri, because we are Indians. we are
born and brought up in Manipur. friends! Please use sense in your
thinking. As Indians we should embrace one another and have close
interactions to share our oneness through cultures, traditions exchange
etc. Even inter caste marriage can be encouraged as this will bond our
wholeness spirit and build a strong nation. ILP is not the solution, why
do you want a separate Act? Indian constitution under Article 19 has
allow every indian citizen to move freely around the country. please
stop this Stupidity and selfishness.
I really appreciate Sanatombi’s article. The Indo-Pak war
in 1970s led to the migration of huge amount of Bangladeshi refugees in
Burma, Tripura, Assam and Manipur which totally changed its politics
within few years. The influx of illegal migrants from Bangladesh, Burma
and India has been continuing .We should stand together against such
demographic invasion. ILP is not only to check the immigrant but also to
register any outsiders entering Manipur. Tripura, Assam and Sikkim are
the living examples of how migrants devour the indigenous populations.
Manipur cannot be treated like other Indian States. We should remember
how our government in 1947-49 was concerned for the implementation of
visa system for the outsiders for entering the state. In the 19th
century also the royal government of Manipur had an office at Lakhimpur
which issued visa to the foreigners entering Manipur. [I guess even
Jawaharlal Nehru and Rabindranath Tagore didn’t get visa to enter
Manipur].
Although this system was completely independent of Bengal
Eastern Frontier Regulation, 1874, we should look from that point of
history. Now the immigrant issue becomes more serious with the opening
of borders. The indigenous populations will disappear in few years with
the opening of Trans Asian highways and railway in the state. The
puppet government in Manipur cannot take any remarkable step means the
influx of immigrant in Manipur is political in nature. We cannot simply
treat it as mere influx but it has the nature of ethnic genocide. We
should stand together against such Government sponsored demographic
invasions. I wonder some of the casual opportunist Manipuris are showing
reckless to the issue with baseless arguments. Listen, @ Axxo Naturally
people are dynamic. They migrated from one place to another for better
life. “We’re living on the same planet” is true but it is also true
that we cannot visit any place in the planet without a stamp called
visa….
"Let’s raise our voice to implement the ILP system in Manipur."
@ Ibochou : You don't require ILP to go to sikim except for
northen sikim because of the sensitive nature of the international
border with china. Same thing applies to Ladakh also but now except some
border areas ILP is withdrawn from ladakh for indians.
@sanatombi : Iche sanatombi you have shown your class and intellect
here.The population of parsi community is 69000 only and surviving the
so called and dreaded onslaught by mayangs in a city like mumbai for
centuries. Have you heard of Darwin? His survival of the fittest theory
if you want to defy then why stop at ILP! ask for a reserve forest for
manipuris like Jarawas or sentineles in andaman. My request is convince
general jadumani to demand for a first reserve forest status for humans
of manipur.
@Ibochouba,It seems that u never have been out of ur
Hut..sikkim does't has ILP system..And for ur kind ioformation PAP is
not for we Indians...It is because of the chinese Line of
control,connected to that particular area...since i a govt.servant,been
to almost all the states in India...but none is corrupted as Manipur,u
are drown in corruption,at the same time i Also Admit of my state
corrupt too,but see the difference.U have nothing,expect spreading
venom.
Axxo Now you feel ashame to be a Manipuri,because there is a
nationality to your bearing whether you like it or not ,a time may come
for your descendants that nothing left for them to say ashame of.You
moron got my point.If you are ashamed to say you are son of your mother
then take anyone 's mother's name who are beauty,wealthy,powerful.Kick
out your mom...you will not understand what is saying here,you may be
wondering..ha ha ha...
mieteis u ppl r not fit to led manipur...
@ Ramesh Article 19 (I) (d) and (e) gives freedom any
citizens of India to move freely but it doesn’t give free right. I
hope you are aware of article 19 (5) which provides that “ Nothing in
sub clauses (d) and (e) of the said clause shall affect the operation of
any existing law in so far as it imposes, or prevent the State from
making any law imposing, reasonable restrictions on the exercise of any
of the rights conferred by the said sub clauses either in the interests
of the general public or for the protection of the interests of any
Scheduled Tribe”. For the interest of the indigenous populations the
Govt. should implement ILP under Article 10 (5) for restricting entry of
outsiders to Manipur.
Go for protest sittings at your local MLAs' residential
gates. Never vote for anyone who don't consider ILPS serious. Start
right from today. Start campaigning today. It's a matter of our own
survival. Whatever our elected members decided is our decision coz they
represent us legally in the eyes of everyone. So none can stop them. Go
protest to your local MLAs. ILPS or No Vote! Let them take the decision.
@Cupid@Abhi Sharma,again you show your hollowness and
incomplete knowledge.Don't misled the readers with your hollow knowledge
,if you didn't know about the subject you admit it ,but don't
bluff.Even if you bluff ,educated person will google search the tourism
deptt.contact numbers and can confirm whether ILP system enforce in
Sikkim or not.If you touch Sikkim you will find a place called Rangpo,Ok
there the outsiders have to obtain ILP before entering sikkim.Sometimes
there happens some mistaken identity that ppl from NE was mistaken as
Sikkimist /NepaleseSikkimese police didn't ask for pass,but very
cases.Whatever I wrote in my comments is after confirmation,not
assumption or hearsay as you ppl do.check your facts.@Jemjem,I thought
that you are a one who can be interactedd but I found that your upper
faculty is not to working normally ,my reference of Sikkim is just to
proof that ILP doesn't in any way prevent outsiders from investment,from
entering,from staying,or doing business in that state,which I had
mentioned repeatedly.I am not discussing the congenial and favorable
factors for investment by outsiders in a state.That subject is a
separate issue.Now your upper faculty can understand,got my point?I
didn't think you can understand so easily.Now if you really get my point
then tell,who is the real donkey?Sometimes I wonder how these ppl with
hollow knowledge and even can't come to a logical conclusion started
posting comments on such sensitive issues without having enough
knowledge to substantiate their line of argument.Absurd!!!
@ibochou.apologies for my harsh comments.i lost my cool.but
after some deliberation i realised now dat u firmly believ in wat u
profess.
it is gud to debate on topics as sensitive as dis..as the consequence
mite b critical fr several sections of society.
as we can all see..this article has generated a lot of interest..we need
to put it to gud use.
my concern is dis.
1.the issue of ILPS mite hav been raked up by vested interest.
2.since ILPS is a very sensitive issue,various political groups can spin
it in anyway they want n da conservative sections of civil society will
obviously support it n in da process..unfortunate incidents can take
place.
3.the use of young students can result in casualties..even lost of young
innocent lives..
4.the vested interest can easily use dese deaths as an excuse to further
the protest..even tho it was them who forced da students in da line of
fire.
5.as our society already has hatred for the 'mayangs'..historical n cuz
of afspa..they become easy targets.
6.the argument that ILP is a panacea fr manipurs problem is wrong.
7.assuming dat ILPS actually works..n saves manipur from being "overrun"
by outsiders..n prevents it frm becoming another tripura..who will
really benifit?
8.isnt it a gud thing fr outsiders to come n assimilate wid our
culture..isnt dat growth?i met a sardar in dwarka,delhi..at a shop n he
approached me n spoke to me in manipuri.. gave me great pleasure to hear
him speak in flawless manipuri..in delhi..n he said he ws frm manipur.
imagine dat.i felt proud..but here..we r screaming"mayang mayang"
9.it seems like anyone doubting da effectiveness of the ILPS demand is
branded anti national...very similar to the mentality dat anyone not
supporting Indian cricket team is anti national..or unpatriotic.
10.the incident is starting to look more like the MNS n shiv sena
marathi movement..hence my apprehensions.
11.advocates of ILPS are getting more vocal..n therefore ready to pay
any price..which scares me.no amount of debate can make them take a step
back..n think.
12.the love for motherland is begining to be equated wid the hate for
outsiders..a dangerous trend.
@ibochou n everyone reading dis comment.it mite luk cool n patriotic n
feel rt to be vocal abt ILPS..but if u put urself in the others shoe n
imagine..isnt it scary..especially if u had made manipur ur home...
well..i hav many more points to discuss but wil keep it fr later..
@abhi sharma..u sud share ur apprehension abt ILPS
..it will help us a lot.
@wangam somorjitsana, Please read over to understand
properly. The Article 19 clause(5) has clearly define regarding the sub
clauses of (d) & (e) of clause (1). If we go by the language used in
it, it is quite noticeable that words such as any existing Law. This
means any such Law must be currently in operation. Further Following
line says reasonable restrictions to serve the interests of the general
public, here again, we too belong as the General public, we have been
residing in Manipur for many years. Protection of the interest of the
schedule tribe, cannot be inclusive since Manipur is a land of various
communities consisting of Muslims, Meiteis, Nepalese, tribals and
Mayangs(a discord reference you love to call us) who are now making
Manipur as their home, possessing lands and well establish business.
Please put your sense in place, we cannot divide the nation in a myopic
promotion.
@ibochou..n yes,one more thing..in most of da comments
posted..they seem to think dat all outsiders r in cahoot to overrun
manipur.
that it is der masterplan to b da majority in 10-20yrs in manipur by
migrating in large nos.
pl let the readers know dat it is not so.
or am i mistaken here? Is der a grand scheme?
if der is no such scheme...den it is likely that they r also jus ppl
trying to look fr a way to survive..victim of economic
circumstances..jus like everyone else.NOT the villians.
do we think india is a democracy country? yes y not
than you can settle down anywhere,anyplace .think of ur family,fren,brotrs hu are staying outside.do they
realy sopprt ILP in manipur.........MERITS N DEMERITS????????????????????
@Jemjem ,ur apologetic sense is appreciatedLook brother
there r only two options b4 us.We have to adopt either of the two.Yes
for ILP or No.If we consider NO,then we the Meeteis,(Our fellows hill
area are already protected by statute)whose population nearly 15
lacs(lets say)only concentrated in small size imphal valley ,will be
vulnerable to influxion on alarming proportion of migrants estimated to
somewhere 5lacs.(1/3are immigrants).The proportion is so alarming,one
has to accept the reality.(I too have many mainland friends,since I work
in central government deppt.)However,if we,our generation,didn't wake
up to the occasion,and do something to check the mass exodus,surely a
time may come that the situation is out of hand,and we have little to
do,that may cost dearly to our community.The ILP movement is nothing
personal to someone ,say to Mr.X,Y or Z.The ILP is not
unconstitutional,it is implementing in other NE states,too.A small
population like Our greatly necessitates ILP to safeguard ourselves
against the vast numbers of Indian population surging for 2billion.There
is nothing anti Mayang,or against any particular community or
individual,on ILP demand.I strongly feel ,drawn from all practical
purpose,that it doesn't in any way prevent outsiders to land in our
state for any purpose,for definite period of time,as required,but not
settle down permanently,owning lands.I have stay and seen
Nagaland,Tripura,Sikkim,Assam,and other mainland states (during course
of my posting) and logically conclude that protectionists policy like
ILP ,is very much necessary in Manipur ,for survival of Meetei,one may
agree it or not. .....Again if we consider the option of Yes
to ILP,then it is the only way we can protect and preserve our
identity,against the present trends of influxion and lethargic attitude
of Meeteis in general.I too have many "Mayang"friends ,I love some of
them,but safeguarding our community is more important,and my love to
them does not diluted .Nothing personal about it.There are some immature
comments above who cannot even understand well on what is expressing in
the write up of sanatombi.
@ Ramesh…. I am highlighting Art. 19 (5) again “nothing
shall prevent the State from making any law with reasonable restrictions
in the interests of the general public.” So, implementation of ILP is
constitutional. Whether the State should be read as Union of India or
the ’state’ is questionable since the Union Minister Shinde very
confusedly said that it is purely a state subject. Here the ‘general
public’ can read as the people of Manipur…. you should be clear that
people of Manipur means Meetei and all the indigenous tribes, not those
outsiders ( mayangs/ Nepalese) who came to devour the original
population after the abolition of the permit system or visa system in
1950…. You much have been aware of the ongoing public movement for the
implementation of ILP which led to the closing of all the school/
college till today… this is a general public movement…..
ILPS, inner line permit system is an important TOPIC for
debate and discussion by one and all who considered themselves as
indigenous tribe/people.In today's political scenario around the
world,in particular well within the INDIA,to preserved and conserved the
rich heritage of one's regional culture,language,tradition,political
ideology,land resourse and integrity and demography is the sole and
birth right of every individual of that particular region/state.we know
nation building is ongoing process and a large subcontinent type nation
like INDIA must deal with regional aspirations like (ILPS)through
democratic negotiation rather than suppression.Regions together form the
NATION,so regions must have a share in deciding the destiny of the
NATION,if not the feeling of injustice and alienation can spread which
in turned will go for secessionist movement.Regional imbalance in
economic and development is a fact of INDIA'S growth story.
At the same
time MANIPUR,TRIPURA and KHASI HILLS of MEGHALAYA were erstwhile
princely STATE which mearged with india after independence.the economy
of the entire NE regions were badly affected and distorted,and most of
the regions underwent mojor demography changes mostly due to large scale
influx of migrants and immigrants from other states and countries.in
this situatin,regional aspiration is not an abnormal
phenomenon.lastly,let us accepted that NE regions shares boundaries with
CHINA,MYANMAR,BANGLADESH unlike other state of india and there is a
great tendency of massive influx of immigrants.again,half the world's
population growth occurs in just 06 countries
china,bangladesh,pakistant,india,(Indonesia and Nigeria)out of these
06,our NE has been surrounded by three most populous country.as we
know,poverty and state's economy are somehow correlated with large scale
migration and is a matter of serious concerned for one and all to our
core values of our existence.India is a large nation with huge number of
large communities but the phenomenon of engulfing small fish by large
fish will not be accepted, we know what to do and we will fight with
tooth and nail for this common cause.influx really endangered the
question of encroaching on our scare resources like land and there will
be a serious threats to the employment opportunities to the indigenous
tribals which still grappled with a tremendous amount of
unemployment,next political power,very important factor to decide the
future of our next generation.with these large current influx of
migrants will reduce the indigenous MANIPURIS into a minority.so,in near
future or next state assembly election you will see 30 seats will be
occupied by the outsiders,you will be rule by outsiders at your own
state till the time that you came to realized once we were under the
colonial imperor of british,history repeat itself but this time we will
not let it happened.so wake up my dear @Ramesh @jemjem and other
stumbling blocks.ILPS is our sole right,when it happened to ARUNACHAL
PRADESH, NAGALAND,SIkkim why not in MANIPUR.we respect every
individual,but try to understand it is our sole and birth right in which
we could stand at our own feet.....thank you all.
@ibochou..thank you,i understand the logic behind the demand
fr ILP. Everyone wants to contribute towards da preservation n
continuity our culture.
it is the method dat is in question here..becoz of the consequences
involved in da equation.
i feel that someone sud clealy address the concerns of da nay group.
history is filled wid such moments..everywher in da world.we r not the
first ..nor will b the last.
if we read up on what happened to those movements..it wil b helpful.
can u please address my corcerns..point by point..if possible.
@all the proILPS readers.
if all these apprehensions can b laid to rest..i firmly believ dat the
demand fr ILPS will b stronger..n justified.
@jemjem,I can tell u only one thing to you.There are two
types of persons,1.those person who always try to do things (read
positive things)in one pretext or other 2)those person who always try
not to do things in one pretext or other.Similarly....There are thousand
ways not to do ILP,same time, there are thousand ways to do ILP,which
way you go? The answer is yours to decide.If you have decided to do,then
one doesn't necessarily need to accommodate all thousand ways of
Opposite(not to do).Otherwise you can't take a decision and become a
confused person.
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